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Just Because the Answer Was No Yesterday Doesn’t Mean It is Today

My Granny’s brother has always been a big of a mystery.   He has been tied up in family legend that the facts have neither been able to support or refute. The legend about Jimmy Duncan is that he died in Pearl Harbor.    That is the whole story, no more details to be told.

Granny never supplied any additional information no matter how often or how I worded my questions.   I had found him on the 1930 census and from that managed to determine his birth year and gotten a copy of his birth certificate.    Jimmy was one year younger than my Granny, but in all the pictures I saw of Granny as a young girl there was only her mother and her younger sister.    Never the father or the her brother.    When my Granny passed away I got a photo of my Granny when she was been somewhere between age five and ten. In this picture there was also her brother and father!  It is the only images I have of them.  Photos always make people so much more real.

I have been working with this limited information for years.    Jimmy was never showing in the high school year book with his sister, even though they were one year apart.  He was just gone.    Finally I met up with a man who was the son of my Nanny (Granny’s mother) foster brother.    He remembered once when Nanny visited them in that the adults were talking in hushed tones about her visiting someone in prison.   I was again off and running contacting Oklahoma corrections looking for either of the missing men in my family.    That never got any response.  One of the many frustrations of research.   No response to a SASE, not even to say we don’t do this kind of thing.

I had combed all the Pearl Harbor records looking for Jimmy.   I had contacted Veteran’s Affairs, National Personnel Records and the National Archives looking for for a hit with the information I had.   It always came back as not found. When the 1940 census records were made available 2012, I hit a jackpot.   Jimmy was indeed in the military in 1940 and was stationed as a private in Hawaii.   So as in all legends, there was that element of truth in the story I had been told.   I had some more information on James M Duncan, Jr.  and was off and running again.  Once again it was not found. I spent time researching his military group and looking for details online, and confirmed what I already knew, so much of what I want is not online.   You can not get everything via Google contrary to popular belief.

I always watch and read about additional historic records being index or made available to the public.   It is a slow and expensive process.  Not really a priority item, until some news report about archived records being stolen because they are basically just piled up because we don’t have resources to property index and store them.     I had recently read an article about how some of the records damaged in the 1973 fire were being reevaluated for preservation with newer technology to save and access these records.   So I figured what the heck try again and submitted my request again.   I got home from work to discover I had a letter from the National Personnel Records Center and it was asking for money.    The fee was for $70 so there are at least six pages available on Jimmy.

I have written my check and done my mighty expensive happy dance.  Now I wait.   The lesson from this is time does change what is available.   Don’t be afraid to ask again.    It also reminds me of what an expensive hobby this can be.



I have struggled with the whole DNA thing and tracing your family roots.  Mostly because I am a privacy freak.   The best historical DNA comes from a man and I can’t imagine asking my brother to take a DNA, even if I paid for it.   Besides the privacy it still largely an expensive undertaking to do right.

I on the other hand am somewhat fascinated by my Virtue side of the family.   Mostly because they are in Ireland for one generation and no one, including Ralph who actually got talk to many of the children of James our immigrant never found a prior generation.   Now with all the wonderful historical records being made available, this is still a dead end.   DNA probably isn’t going to answer some great question because by in large I am descendant of people of Northern European origin.   Much of my family has been in the US  for many generations, some prior to the American revolution on both paternal and maternal side, so those folks have likely commingled diverse genetic backgrounds.

On the other hand there may be some ethnic factors that show up that will not make any sense to my 30 years of research.   Wouldn’t that be a kick in the pants to discover that there were some significant indicators to show I have Southern European roots.   Nothing in my research indicates that to be the case.   Then again maybe some of my ancestors only were in their Northern European country for a generation before immigrating to the US.

I am blogging about this because Ancestry just recently developed a test that is suppose to work well for even females, and they did an introductory special for $100.   Best of all they do allow you to opt out of pooling your data for research, statistics, etc.   I am not fooling myself that if there is a way to make a buck with my DNA someone will, but the actual ability to opt out will hopefully not let some insurance company find out my stuff that is none of their business in my lifetime.   Nor am I expecting my history to be as good if I asked my brother to do one of the more expensive tests, but that $100 price tag and the ability for them to acknowledge I am opting out threw me over the line.

I have my kit here and am going to gather my specimen and send it off today.   Six to eight weeks from now I will hopefully have something to share that will make for some interesting reading for those of you have wondered about the DNA and family history.

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